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Should I buy a Gheenoe or a canoe

Postby hansruys » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:39 am

Hey y'all, new poster here been lurking for quite a spell trying to learn as much as I can from y'all, great forum!

I had a Coleman square back canoe with a five horse motor some 15-20 years ago,
had a blast with that little boat, sold it when I bought bigger boats, missed it.

Just sold my last offshore boat, I'm done with big boats,
I wanna get back to basics and do some river cruising.

I've always thought I wanted a Gheenoe but it occured to me that most of y'all are into fishing, I'm not.

I just want something that my wife and I can use to do some leisurely sightseeing on the rivers,
I'm thinking about motoring up current and drifting/paddling down current.

So here's my question for all of you "veteran" Gheenoe owners.

Is the Gheenoe (I'm thinking 15.4" highsider) suited for what I want
or would I be better of with a square back canoe?
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Postby quietcat » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:55 am

the gheenoe will be way superior for motoring, and it can be paddled pretty well also. the unique hull shape of it gives it alot of stability compared to a square back canoe
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Postby microtom » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:45 am

First welcome to the forum. You have probably been around for a while but good to see you posting.

You have a great question. I pretty much came into Gheenoes with the same story as you. Long time canoe and kayaker. Also spent a lot of time around offshore and sailboats to know that was too expensive for me.

The canoe is a good option for many applications. Its going to be a lighter boat and its a better paddling boat as far as speed. It also lends itself better to car topping.

A Gheenoe can be cartoped. I have done it several times on the top of a Ford Windstar but a trailer is much easier and makes launches quicker. Also a 15'4" Gheenoe would give you the same basic boat shape but come with a more stable design and is more sturdy. With those two features you will give you a greater range and the ability to cover that distance in a much quicker amount of time. Here is a picture I took of some random family doing pretty much the same thing that you are talking about. This was on the Silver River going to Silver Springs. What would have taken all day in a canoe was a nice couple hour trip in the Gheenoe.

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The best thing you can do is get a test ride and find out for yourself. It should not be too hard to find someone in your area with a Highsider.
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Postby backwaterbandits » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:21 am

Welcome aboard! :D
Tom pretty much said it all... A 15'4" Hi-Sider is
like a heavy duty, extra stable square back canoe.
Unless you need to car top or do a lot of carrying it
around the Gheenoe would be great... Test Drive...
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Postby comerplumbing » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:08 pm

I Do exactly what you guys are looking to Do with a gheenoe ...

Low horsepower gets you good hull speed ... I am developing some enhancements for a highsider ....

Near shore , Lakes and small Rivers Gheenoes Rule !!!

Not as easy to paddle .... but Very Sturdy and Stable ...

Get a test ride You WILL be hooked :-)

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Postby hansruys » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:32 pm

Thanks for the welcome and for the quick replies,
you guys are telling me "what I want to hear" :D

I will definetly be trailering,
I'm to lazy to hoist the Gheenoe onto my truck,

Once I become a "real Gheenoer" I'm sure y'all will see me posting more,
since I'm still a "wannabe" I figured it was wiser to "shut up and listen" for a while first.
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Postby backwaterbandits » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:08 pm

If you are going to trailer you're gonna love it!
I grew up in St. Pete and have lived in Pinellas
Park for about 25years...so we're "neighbors"
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Postby TomFL » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:11 pm

Funny how this sounds like me a few years ago...

I had an Old Town Discovery 133, was supposed to be their widest, most stable canoe. I was not overly impressed with the stability, although I admit it did paddle decent. An electric trolling motor pushed me as fast as I was comfortable with my wife in it. Twice I almost tipped it.

Sold that and bought a 15 hi-sider. World of difference, I can't tell you how much more stable a gheenoe is than a canoe. I used the 15 for duck hunting (from the boat) and had no issues with me and a 200+ lb guy in it, 3-4 dzn decoys, guns, gear, etc. I have run the 15 with everything from a 5hp to a 25hp outboard (way overkill) and I can say that I would not have attempted ANY of those motors on the discovery canoe.

I can't say whether they paddle as good as canoes, but I can say I've put both on top of an SUV, and a 13' gheenoe is similiar in weight to the 133 discovery, so I think that's a wash.

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Postby Shudy » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:14 pm

I have paddled my Gheenoe before. It paddles okay but doesnt turn as well as a canoe but paddles still pretty good. Get a motor for it and you can go from something to troll with to something like a 9.9 or 15 and really get somewhere. You can sit on the bench seats or get a regular boat seat and mount on the benches. The options for the highsider is just about endless. I promise you if you get a highsider you wont be disappointed and you will want to kick your own butt for thinking about getting canoe.


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Postby Un- Shore » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:03 pm

What little you might lose in paddling a gheenoe is nothing compared to the stability you will gain.

Thats just me, I like to keep from tipping over.
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Postby microtom » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:26 am

My mom, wife and daughter paddling a 15'4" Highsider with the current for a couple of miles. Myself, my dad and son were in a canoe. We had to watch our balance while the girls had a great time.

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Postby VA Gheenoe » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:17 pm

The only advantage to a canoe is that it may be lighter. If you need to carry it around that may be a factor. Other wise, the hi sider is more stable, easier to paddle, etc . I love my hi sider.
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Postby hansruys » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:34 pm

Well I'm making progress toward joining the ranks y'all.
Yesterday I picked up a mid to late 90's Honda 8hp 4 stroke,
and I've come up with a name for the Gheenoe I haven't got yet.

I was listening to Dire Straits and it came to me,
"updacreek" which pretty much describes my current situation.

I'm still looking for the right Highsider/trailer combo but it seems that anything used and decent
is almost the price of new
so I'm thinking about riding up to the factory next week just to look around
(at least that's what I've told my wife :lol: )

She's not to thrilled that I want to buy another boat,
she thinks I should find another job first
and I don't think she buying the "but now I've got the time to enjoy a boat" argument.

Wish me luck, I'm only one PMS from being homeless.
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Postby jared... » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:43 pm

If your not against buying used you could check out craigslist and the classified section here and on microskiff.
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Postby tico » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:19 pm

You can also talk to Pugar, he's got some used boats he can make you a deal on.
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